Meng Wubo asked, "Can Zilu be said to have attained humaneness?" The Master said, "I cannot say." Meng Wubo asked again. The Master said, "As for Zilu, in a state commanding a thousand chariots, he could be entrusted with the management of its military affairs — but whether he has attained humaneness, I cannot say." "What about Qiu?" The Master said, "As for Qiu, in a town of a thousand households, or a noble estate commanding a hundred chariots, he could be entrusted to serve as its steward — but whether he has attained humaneness, I cannot say." "What about Chi?" The Master said, "As for Chi, dressed in his official robes and standing at court, he could be entrusted to receive and converse with distinguished guests — but whether he has attained humaneness, I cannot say."